Cody is a friend of mine that I have known for many moons. Our less than stellar part-time jobs happened to be in the same strip mall and we had some mutual friends. Now he works with my sister and is in a local band called Echoes The Lion. My sister had suggested that I interview him next, and I’m really glad that I did. His collection is well-curated and in fantastic condition. He really knows his stuff, and had a lot to say about everything vinyl related, so it was super fun.
That’s such an awesome record player.
Thank you!
Where did you get it?
Cosmic Dave’s.
Yeah! When did you get it?
Oh jeez, that’s a good question. 2012 I think.
Nice!
Yeah, it was summer 2012.
Good needle too. A good setup.
It’s almost time to change it too. It’s not skipping or anything, it’s j-
Oh my gosh, you have two copies of Brand New [Déjà Entendu]!
Yeah, I’m definitely going to be talking about those.
Awesome. Let’s get going! So, when did you start collecting?
I started collecting when I was 16. So 2006. Back then the only store was Records On Wheels, so that’s where I would go. My first purchase there was Funeral by Arcade Fire.
Really! That’s a good one.
Yeah! My grandma brought in a record player – I worked at our family business back then. I was intrigued by it, so I wondered if there was any place where you can still go buy records, or even if they still made records. That was back before the revival really happened. I ended up going to Records On Wheels on my lunch hour. I went and bought Funeral, then the next day I went back and bought Reconstruction Site by The Weakerthans.
Cool! So what’s the most recent one you’ve bought?
Actually, just got one yesterday in the mail. Where is it… I should know because they’re all in alphabetical order… here it is. So I just got this yesterday.
Awesome. Where did you end up finding these cabinets?
This is an old media cabinet that my Mom had – when I moved out, I thought they would be perfect for my records, but I just made an AutoCAD drawing for an actual shelf that I’d like to make. It just comes down to having the time and the money to do everything.
I just made one [with help from an awesome guy]! Oh god, I’m so jealous of this. (It was Ashtray Rock by Joel Plaskett Emergency… a holy grail album for me.)
Actually I got that at Cosmic Dave’s!
Really?! You can’t order them any more!
Really?
They’re out of print I think, but he has some on his website. (At this point Cody tried to give me the album for free and we later negotiated a trade – my copy of Bahamas – Barchords for this one. So stoked. Anyways, at this point we started discussing Brand New.)
So why do you have two copies?
I have the new one, and I have the second pressing. The first one is worth the most – I’ve seen it go for around $600 online, and the second one goes for up to $400. The second pressing is my baby, I don’t play this. I’ve maybe played it once. So it’s opened, but it’s in the thickest sleeve I could find. So I just bought this new pressing which is my listening copy.
And you have blink-182! Those are starting to come out again and they’re super expensive.
Funny thing about those – my blink records are on a label called Mightier Than Sword, which isn’t around any more. One is out of 250, and one is out of 300. They’re super super limited, and for a band like that which usually puts them in the thousands range… I just remembered snagging them and thinking about their worth and how lucky I was. I don’t really listen to these ones either. I mean, sometimes I do, obviously – because what’s the point of having it if you’re not going to listen to it?
There’s this vinyl subreddit, and I remember seeing this post about what you do with a super rare sealed record… you open up and play it. I think that’s awesome.
Yeah!
Okay, so what have you played recently? Something you picked up, whatever you wanna talk about.
That’s a good question actually. I just got Title Fight, it just came out in February. When I was in school I listened to it while doing my homework, and I just started really getting into it. You know when you first listen to an album and you kinda listen to it here and there? Anyways I just put it on about a month ago and remembered that it’s actually awesome.
Cool!
Other than that… I finally got Dark Side Of The Moon, which is crazy.
Hey, nice! Used or new copy?
It’s new. It’s the nineties remaster, the one that has all the posters and stuff in it. I know they just did the Immersion box sets and all that. But my Dad got it when he was in Toronto with Mark actually!
That’s wicked!
So he asked Mark where he could find a copy of it, because my favourite era of Pink Floyd is the Roger Waters era, so Wish You Were Here, The Wall, things like that… even though that’s their best album, so yeah.
Is this Smiths one new? [The Queen Is Dead]
That one I bought in 2011. I think I got this the first time I ever went to Cosmic Dave’s – I was blown away. A friend brought me there for the first time, and I was like, “what is this place?!”
That’s so great!
I just liked it because his prices were fair. It makes it easy to support the business. I mean, I was working at Arby’s at the time, so it was cool. I’m trying to think of other recent ones I’ve picked up… it’s hard to keep track. I’m at like 180 records or something – I’m sure you’ve seen way bigger collections than this, but this is my collection. I haven’t snagged records from anybody else – some people inherit them from their parents or whatever. I have maybe a handful from my Dad’s collection, but most of them were either gone, like there was a sleeve but no record, which is shitty, because there were copies of Rush and stuff that would be cool to have. Actually, we can talk about this one, because it’s my favourite album of last year…
What is it?
So this is a band called Foxing. You probably know this, but there’s this emo revival going on, and when I was growing up, I really liked that kind of stuff… I fucking hate that word, because it got sullied… pop punk got sullied, like my background of music. Stuff like Fall Out Boy and Panic! At The Disco, I hated that shit. It’s terrible. When that stuff started getting big, you almost feel like your territory is getting stepped on a bit. Kind of like real commercial indie rock. Is it really indie rock? I don’t know, when there’s big labels behind it, it kind of loses its meaning a little bit. And there’s a lot of other things. Sorry, I’m rambling.
No! That’s okay!
But I’ve been kind of infatuated with it. I have a few records that have just come out in the past few years that are around the same genre or sub genre, whatever you want to call it.
Yeah.
This one, I don’t know, I would recommend it to anybody who’s into really big sounding albums. This one has a lot of atmosphere and emotion in it. It’s not heavy, it’s got a lot of trumpets… I don’t know how to explain it, other than to check it out. It’s very very very good.
I’ll listen to that.
Yeah, a lot of the bands that are taking off – I don’t know if you know American Football…
Yeah.
A lot of bands are getting inspired by that sound. I have a couple of records by them that are my night time records, you know?
Yeah, totally.
I was just finishing high school, it was the first time I heard American Football. I used to listen to it all the time at night when I was going to sleep because it’s the kind of music that’s like a lullaby.
Yeah. So do you have any records that you’ve bought at shows?
Yes! I want to talk about that… I’m having a High Fidelity moment… I have [my collection] sorted alphabetically, but do I want them sorted alphabetically by year, newest to old… right now they’re alphabetically then by album name, but… yeah! But yeah, ones that I’ve bought at shows… not that the Townehouse hasn’t gotten any good acts, but I’ve gotten a few from shows there. I bought these two at my favourite Townehouse show ever.
What are they?
Tokyo Police Club.
Yeah? When?
Uh, jeez… I think I have the ticket in here. I do! Gimme a second.
Yeah!
I’m all about keeping stuff.
So you bought them both at the same show?
Yeah!
Nice.
Well I couldn’t say no to getting their first, because I’ve wanted it since it came out. The funny thing about this band is that… oh god, when did that come out… I was in high school, and I think I found it on iTunes, the first time I ever bought an iTunes card, back when those were a thing. Them and Bombay Bicycle Club.
I noticed that you don’t have the new one.
The newest one by Bombay?
So Long, See You Tomorrow? I think it’s called?
Yep. I have it digitally, which obviously isn’t as good.
Did you like it though?
I’d have to say that it’s probably my least favourite – I like it though. There’s nothing wrong with it at all. I like the direction that they’re going in, it’s just that-
You do have the ticket!
Yes! There it is. With the corner ripped off. I just remembered a funny story from that show. You know Sam, right? I went there with her and another person at the time and it was like my first time going to a big show at the Townehouse. I think Born Ruffians were playing a week later and I went to that too. And they started playing old songs off of the first album because we kept yelling at them to do it. Now that I’m older, I’m thinking that they probably fucking hated us, but once they started playing songs from that album I just remember losing my mind and next thing you know Sam’s on the ground and people just started trampling over each other, it was ridiculous.
That’s awesome.
It was a good time. Oh yeah, so Bombay Bicycle Club. So that was kind of a funny story. I don’t know if he still does this at Cosmic Dave’s, but he used to have records behind the cash, a little area at the bottom, and I remember going through there and – once again though, going back to the iTunes story with Bombay Bicycle Club I remember when their EP came out, and they’re younger than me I think. And I was so blown away – it was so amazing, especially for how young they are. So I kind of lost track after that… I think they put out another EP and a single until they released their debut, and I just kind of lost interest… not interest, it just kind of slipped my mind. I think in 2009 when it came out, I was probably a couple of months late but I had seen it online. Their first one is my favourite. Hopefully the plastic isn’t messing up the picture.
No! I don’t think so.
So yeah, it was my first time there too – going through that little section and then I saw it, and I remember asking, “how do you have Bombay Bicycle Club here?!” I had only been to Records on Wheels prior, so you only see the really popular indie records and the really popular rock/jazz records, stuff like that.
Yeah.
So I was just blown away, I found Say Hi, which is one of my favourite bands from high school. So yeah, I picked this up right away. I couldn’t find it anywhere except online, and online they were ridiculously expensive. You know the site Discogs? I think my second most priciest record, I don’t know if it still stands, but last time I checked it was really expensive.
I love that cover too.
This is their magnum opus, you know? I remember recommending it to Mark and he liked it, and even did a little shout out on Facebook for it, and I got him to order it in then he ordered in a bunch of other copies because he liked it. It’s just one of those albums that’s a trip on its own.
I really liked So Long, See You Tomorrow because Mark had an in store copy of it. So I would listen to it often, then it was filed away and haven’t listened to it recently.
I have to pick it up, because I’m pretty huge on having discographies. I have a few full collections, like my Japandroids collection is awesome even though I don’t listen to them much any more. But I have everything, even the singles collection. They’re numbered on the back.
Wicked!
I had two and three, then they put out four, could never find one, and then I was following it on Discogs waiting for someone to post it, then someone finally put it up for ten bucks so now I have all of them. It’s kind of cool
It’s really cool! Why do you feel the need to have everything?
Because I’m crazy!
I get that.
No really though. It’s just nice, especially with bands I really like, to have the choice available to me. At least I have it on vinyl, I don’t have to rely on a digital copy because, well, I didn’t buy a six hundred dollar record player for nothing. With the revival of vinyl, people buy Crosleys and stuff like that.
Oh I know, I know.
Yeah, I’m sure you hear enough about that.
People come into the store and they’re like, can I order a Crosley? And I’m like, yeah, I GUESS but you’re not going to want it. But at the same time too, for kids in high school, who are just starting out… you know?
Oh I totally know. I had a shitty record player for a while, until I could afford that. But the ones with the built-in speakers, I just don’t understand… you might as well just plug in your headphones into your phone, it’s the same sound. For me, it’s always been about quality and collecting… I remember when my collection was like a quarter of the size for the longest time. When I was in high school I couldn’t afford to buy records, I just didn’t have the cash. So for a while I just had this stack of like twenty records in my basement, and it wasn’t until someone brought me to Cosmic Dave’s that everything changed. I think that like 75% of my cheques from Arby’s went to records. Then it got to a point where I thought I should probably stop doing that. I could spend way too much money on this stuff, and I have ongoing wants all the time. Ask Karly [Cody’s girlfriend], she knows.
So what’s one that you really want?
Oh god, there’s a bunch that I really want. I can’t even pull one out right now, because I just got that Title Fight record. I still really want the first Dashboard Confessional record, I listened to that when I was a wee one. I remember watching MTV unplugged or something when I was a little kid, and I remember that was the first time I had seen them. One of the members was also in a band called Further Seems Forever, which I listened to at the time but totally didn’t get the connection. When I was older and found that out, it all made sense. I remember considering having a list on the side of my cabinet for the longest time, and just scratch them out as I got them. Then I realized that that’s a bad idea. Have you seen a lot of weird coloured ones? I have a few weird ones in here.
Yeah! Let me see!
Okay.
I also noticed you had The Unicorns on vinyl!
Yes I do!
Okay. That. Like. Okay. I just ordered it because I finally was like, I NEED to have this, this is one of my favourite albums. I love it so much.
Well I’ve read a few posts you’ve put up before, and I saw that Matt had it. And it is really awesome.
I’m so excited to get my copy!
I had a friend that got me into this record. It was 2011, and a lot of my friends were amazed that I hadn’t heard of it yet. But are they back now?
No, Nick Diamonds just released a solo album and is focusing on that right now. They were back last year, they played a couple of shows.
That’s what I heard, just didn’t know if they were back fully. There’s a whole bunch of reunions going on the past couple of years.
Yeah. Totally.
So yeah, crazy vinyl. Do you know who Kevin Devine is?
No, I’ve heard the name before.
He’s a singer-songwriter. He’s best friends with Jesse Lacey from Brand New, so he used to open up for them all the time, and that’s how I caught wind of him. You go to Youtube, type in the name of your favourite band’s videos, and then he popped up. But I actually heard of Kevin Devine in a weird coincidental way, now that I think of it. I think I was sixteen or seventeen when some guy made my cousin a mix CD. And she hated it, so she asked me if I wanted it, and I kinda said I guess? Okay? But the song Longer That I’m Out Here was on it, which is corny and shitty nowadays when I listen to it, but then I went on Youtube and saw that he opened for Brand New, and I kind of checked it out more. Now I have every single record of his except for two, and just like Brand New records, they’re extremely hard to find.
Yeah.
They’re all limited pressings – I get messages on Record Nerd all the time for the first one he put out. It has a good cover of Harvest Moon on it.
Oh cool!
I’ve had many offers on this but they’re always too low – not that I would sell it anyway. I’ve had offers on records before, but I can’t bring myself to sell stuff that’s worth this much to me. I don’t know, there’s so much sentimental value to these, and I think that everybody can relate to that with their record collection – it’s not just owning an album – I have so many memories with these albums. Well, most of them. But anyways, he did a Kickstarter a few years ago and put out two albums at the same time. These are actually the UK copies – they’re limited, and I’m really into getting the most limited ones, but-
WHOA! That’s crazy! Glitter!
So these are the weirdest ones I have. There’s some that are all mixed and swirled, but as soon as I saw that it was on purple glitter vinyl, I wondered what it was… I googled it and no pictures any where, so I thought it was interesting. When I got it in, I posted a picture online the day I got them because they were so amazing.
That’s awesome.
But it was supposed to be one green one purple, but there was a mess up at the factory so they’re both purple, but who cares, they’re still awesome. It’s just a colour.
So do you usually buy online, or in store?
I’m going to say that about 60% of my collection comes from Cosmic Dave’s, guaranteed. Like I said, the real bulk of my collection was from going there regularly. Ever since I went back to school, I haven’t had the cash to really buy records, only here and there. This hasn’t gotten any bigger since I moved here, which was almost two years ago. It’s kind of shitty now, because I have to pick and choose what I need, whereas before I would go to Cosmic Dave’s, grab five, come home, get sad because I didn’t have any more money but would listen to records anyway. I’m a huge fan of shopping locally – keep the money here. I got my record player and my speakers at the store too. The thing is that prices online used to be good, but shipping got expensive, the exchange rate is shit… like, that Title Fight record. I bought it online because I thought I was saving a few bucks but it was still like thirty bucks. I remember when I used to be able to snag a record online for twenty bucks but it’s not like that any more.
That’s like how Bleed American by Jimmy Eat World is due to be repressed in August.
Again.
Again!
I want that so badly. I’ve been looking for the triple vinyl that came out on Record Store Day like three years ago.
But so that’s being repressed, and the Offspring – Americana just got repressed, and the labels bumped up the prices, which is stupid, because there’s no gatefold or anything… I don’t know why they’re doing that.
That’s the thing too, I would get it if the packaging was elaborate – I don’t really care about that though. I know that the new Father John Misty had a big pop up thing, and it was like sixty bucks, which is cool for the fact that it’s limited and is something that with age becomes cooler. My Brand New record – which I could talk about forever, because that’s an interesting story – you know that I have the second pressing and the newest one, but that second pressing came out in 2007. The album itself came out in 2003, there’s a pressing of 1000, and that was it. And I don’t know if you know Brand New fans – they’re insane. I’ve been to once concert, and the people made me sick, because they treat the band like gods. They’re just a band, it’s not a big deal. But that’s beside the point. Some guy approached me because it was on my Want list on Record Nerd, and he said that he would sell me his copy for $200, and I said it wasn’t going to happen. But I also thought, shit. When’s the next one going to come out, you know? And I mean, I had the money at the time, but $200, that’s insane, right? Even now, I would never ever ever spend that much money on a record, because it’s scalping, which is terrible. That’s why it’s so high. I’m glad they pressed a new version, because it was getting to a point where even The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me got to stupid prices. So literally the day that happened, on Triple Crown’s website I had put in my email two years before to remind me when it was back in stock. That day, I am not kidding you, when the guy messaged me, the second pressing went up.
No way!
And I got it. I remember sending him a snarky message back telling him that I had just picked up the second pressing.
That’s amazing!!!
Yeah, it’s not the first pressing, but it’s the next best thing. It sounds pretentious, I’m not like that at all though. My life isn’t over, it’s not a big deal. But it’s just something cool to have. I was taken by surprise when they recently repressed it. The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me album was one I had two copies of, but I gave one to my friend, because this one is on black. What happened was this label in the UK, Music On Vinyl, and they did a copy. They had a stupid sticker on the front. They actually stuck it to the copy, which sucked. A part of me didn’t care, but that’s really shitty. Why not just put it on the plastic? A bunch of people were pissed. I remember going to the comments section of the store page and people were raging about the sticker. It’s not a huge deal, but people tried pulling it off and it ripped the art. And when it comes to these, I don’t want to rip them.
That one was pressed on clear vinyl though. I don’t have it any more, my friend has it. This one’s on black like the rest of mine, so it fits more. And it’s on Triple Crown too so it all fits in. But yeah, that’s enough about my Brand New records. Actually, the same thing happened with my blink-182 vinyl too. I gave a copy of the self-titled to my friend. I had bought it from Discogs, and it was a Hot Topic pressing or whatever, and it was out of 2500. Then this one came out and it was only out of 300, so I gave him my original copy. But that one came on hot pink, and the other was on teal, like the colours of the album art. Mine’s just green.
Speaking of UK pressings, I have a whole bunch of really weird ones. Like this one. This is a German import of essentially Endless Summer, with two different songs on it.
That’s amazing!
What’s even more amazing is the gatefold. It’s great. I’m a huge Beach Boys fan. My Dad and I used to drive to the island all the time listening to the 20 Good Vibrations CD, I still have it. But people always ask me why I don’t have Beatles records… it’s the first thing people tend to look for when they look at my record collection. I have one Beatles record, it’s my Dad’s, it’s terrible. It’s Live At The Hollywood Bowl. All you hear is screaming. I don’t know, I’ve always been more of a Beach Boys guy than a Beatles guy.
That’s cool.
I have a funny story about this one. When I went to see Telekinesis in Toronto for the first time.
Oh no way!
They signed it. But I asked them if they had their first record, because the guy was at the merch booth. It was also my birthday too, I was totally star struck, not that it matters, but you know. This first album is a German pressing. This didn’t come out in the States until recently, I think last year. But I asked him if he had a copy, and he said that he didn’t even have a copy of it. So, I have one. I made sure to find that. There’s another EP that came out by him too – I don’t have many 10” records, only that and Radiohead, but I always loved them. Apparently they’re the most expensive things to press, because they’re odd. When would you ever really need one though, you know? The nice thing about the first Telekinesis record is that there’s an EP at the end.
Do you have any local bands on vinyl at all?
I just asked Hello Holiday if they pressed vinyl, I really wanted one of those. My friend bought Geyser’s album at a show. I have This Ship Will Burn, I bought this for three dollars. It’s Tyler, the bassist for my band, it’s his old band.
I’m going to fix these later. Maybe now is the time to organize my records.
It’s a good day to do it, it’s like thirty degrees outside.
Yeah, it’s hot as hell in here, sorry.
Oh, it’s okay. We should wrap this up soon though. Do you think that vinyl is here to stay?
Yes. I hope to god it is, because of the investment in it and I want to keep making that investment. I think that going to shows and being able to pick these up… even in the record stores, it’s nice to just browse through. It’s incredible what you can find. I remember hearing stories from my Dad about going and picking up records… there was no Internet, there’s no way to do any sort of research, which is something that I feel our generation misses. When I buy a record, chances are I’ve already heard it. There are a few in here that I’ve picked up on a dime and they’re awesome or shitty. But it’s nice when you pick one up out of the blue and it’s lucky because you end up liking it. Oh wait, I gotta tell you quickly about my bootleg records.
Yeah! I wanna take a picture of this one.
This is a bootleg copy of Love Will Tear Us Apart – it’s not an original at all because it’s not a 7”. It’s kind of crazy, mixed colour vinyl. It has the original b-side but it also has two live tracks. I also have this Amy Winehouse bootleg, it’s all of her ska covers. Someone hand wrote A and B on it. I have no idea where this came from, I found it on Discogs. My girlfriend and I both really like her, and I really am into jazzy stuff like that. I don’t have a lot of jazz records right now but I’m getting into them. But yeah, that’s about it.
Okay, I’m gonna stop recording.
Sorry! I was telling Alex [my sister] that I could talk about this stuff for literally hours, so hopefully you’re okay with that.